Obama is lying and tried to coverup the torture and murder of our ambassador in Libya. Nixon lied about a coverup of a burglary and was removed from office, yet no one died.
Nov. 6th is time to remove Obama.

What is his direction, and what he stands for? He won't say what his plan is for the next 4 years.

Have any of these Obama supporters ever heard of Socialism? No matter how much I don't agree with the Republican party I refuse to become a Socialist.

What a bunch of alarmist attack dogs. Where were you guys when the planes hit the towers. What is Romney's direction...wait...I know it...what ever the tea baggers tell him it is. Socialism...brother if you or your family ever attend to collect Social Security then you are a Socialist. Pay in and not collect and tough it out. No reason to go against your beliefs.

i guess the direction you like moving in is to Greece!!!

What does he stand for? It's certainly not a strong U.S. economy... It's not honesty... He's specifically lied about Romney on the auto bailout... Romney never said he would liquidate the auto industry, or not allow the government to step in if needed... Or how about this Benghazi, Libya disgrace? The White House knew within two hours what was going on there, and tried to deceive the American people for 15 days... All to prevent political fallout... That's just despicable... I couldn't vote for Obama after that, even if we did have a booming economy, which we do not... Please look at the last four years, people... Please look at the price of gas... The price of everything... We cannot go down this road for another four years...

Lisa V I have to agree with you. I am sorry I just could not vote for Romney to each is own. I have to vote for what works for me and my family and I do not get government assistance but I do know retired and disable people who rely on that income and they should they worked for it. When I reach retirement age I want mine. It comes out of my paycheck every two weeks and I don't want someone acting as if I am smooching off of something that I worked hard for. I should not be paying more taxes than someone who makes more money than I do. I do not need anyone telling what I can and can not do to my body. Of course Obama has made some mistakes that is what humans do. You learn and grow from mistakes that is what shapes us. You can never please everyone people are always looking for fault instead of the good.

To pv: If you study countries which are socialist democracies, i.e., Germany, Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark, etc., you will find that they pay taxes but they get something for the taxes they pay: government guaranteed daycare, retirement income, retirement housing and healthcare. They are not dependent on the whim of corporations which can change benefits or even go under totally. Hopefully, you will always be healthy and able to afford your own expensive health insurance, you will not be at the whim of the stock market and lose your retirement or have Republicans give you a voucher to find "affordable" health care when you are older, disabled, or have too many health issues, and you will pay off your home by the time you are elderly and on a fixed income. May no disaster will befall you ever that you might need food stamps or help with daycare costs. Stay healthy and wealthy and don't expect any help from the government you elect if you ever need it for all the taxes you are paying.

What does he stand for? I haven't met a person yet that endorses Obama that can answer that question.....

We got to the brink of financial destruction at the conclusion of the Bush years. So now because he didn't turn it around in 4 years you want to turn it back over to the same thinkers that got us into this mess.

Oh, please!!!!! You can't possible believe the words you just wrote. Destruction, LOL, please, please think back 5 years ago. I can't believe you think that.

ruth is ford part of the auto industry they took no bailout ... ford is the strongest now because of it ...and when is GM going to payback the loans to us the taxpayers .... oh and ruth GM did go through bankruptcy as Romney said it should ....and again ruth your son in law was lucky .....Between June 2009 and the present, about 1,500 GM dealerships closed. The job loss due to those closings was around 63,000

Tom Om, you are so mis-informed. Ford had a vested interest that the other auto makers received a bailout. Ford feared that with the total collapse of these auto makers that Ford's suppliers would also go under. For pushed for the auto bailout even though they didn't take any money from that program. However, Ford did take later a $5.9 Billion loan from the government and not from private banks.

Also, when Mitt Romney stated to let the auto manufacturers go into bankruptcy, he meant to let them close completely. There were no banks at the time that would have covered them so they could re-organize to get out of bankruptcy. Without the gov't bailout, the auto manufacturers had no financial backing to re-organize their companies and stay in business.

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/09/ford-motor-co-does-u-turn-on-bailouts/

Ruth - you missed the point entirely. There are bankruptcy laws that will permit companys to discharge their debts while staying in business. Those laws protect the people that have loaned money to the company. Obama screwed everybody with his takeover. Just because a company goes through bankruptcy does NOT mean that they will be dismantled! By the way, your son-in-law was lucky that he was able to keep his dealership - MANY GM dealerships were forced to close by Obama's car czar. How do you think they feel now?

Good deal all those overseas part's that GM use's good for China and Mexico..

Ditto Tom m

Your son-in-law must have been one of the "LUCKY" Chevrolet dealers and didn't get shut down by Obama. It was the Republicans who came in and restored dealership status to those dealers who were not Obama contributors.I am really confused by your talking point about Romney saying to let the auto industry go bankrupt since that is exactly what obama did!

President Bush started the TARP payments to the auto industry, not Obama. Obama continued them and added to them, but so would have any president, including Romney. The truth in what Romney said is that the auto industry needed to go through bankruptcy reorganization before more money was simply thrown at the problem. It turns out that he was right on the money, and the auto industry went through bankruptcy reorganization, and came out of it in a lot better situation. Now, here is where Obama lies. Romney also said the auto industry loans should come from the private sector, and not the federal government. And ideally, that's what should happen. However, the banking industry was having it's own issues, so the auto industry couldn't go that route. Therefore, the federal government stepped in with the loans they needed. Romney never said he would liquidate the auto industry, per the common Obama campaign claim, or deny federal government funds had he been president. It's an absolutely false claim, and defies common sense since Romney is a son of Detroit, and the son of a former auto executive. He would have never allowed that to happen, so don't let the Obama campaign lies sway the way you vote. The proven liar in this campaign is Obama, who was shown to be completely dishonest on Benghazi, Libya when those emails were leaked.

I am sure glad we have a lot of millionaires on this blog. Those are the only guys that Romney has and will care about. Besides which Romney are you guys going to vote for...right leaning, Paul Ryan is my boy, teabag direction. OR Romney, the guy who is now all for education...helping the middle class and sympathetic to women's causes.

the plain dealer is a liberal slated newspaper, i realized that a long time ago and quite them. Personally i think the Columbus dispatch is the smarter newspaper for going with the smarter man, one who knows how to run a business, not one who can read a teleprompter, and that is just the beginning of obamas failures!

MR804, you don't care that Obama has presided over the worst economic "recovery" in our history... I don't actually think we're in a recovery... I think his policies are sending us into a massive recession... You don't care that he's completely distorted Romney's record on the auto bailout? You don't care that four died and Obama lied in Benghazi? And tried to hide the truth from us for fifteen days?

The Columbus Dispatch backed Republican Mitt Romney.

HAHAHA I was just about to post the exact same thing almost word for word

The BJ and PD aren't too smart are they? The Obama lovers don't buy the papers and the Romney people who can afford to buy the papers will cancel their subscriptions and get their news from the Internet. Wonder how long the BJ will stay in business with their falling subscription rate? Maybe they need to stick to reporting news and forget the editorials so they don't PO any more subscribers!

Hahahahahahahaha me too! The Beacon Journal is and has always been leaning toward the left.

Except when they deal with their own Unions. Then they become very Reactionary. Integrity is not supported when the "do as I say, not as I do" mentality runs the show. That's why most print news sources are going belly up.

LOL!! Clearly not, Terry... Some papers would back Obama if he was found guilty of murder in the White House... Just look at the economy the last four years, and the lies on what Romney said about the auto bailout, and the lies on Benghazi...

My bird loves the plain dealer !!! when I put a new copy in the bottom her cage, she always responds to the stories in her own special way :)

when the pd called and asked why i quit subscribing , i told them the only thing their paper is good for is dog pee........

omg stop calling the President "divisive"...if anything, the Repub party and the congress they control are the divisive ones. Not to mention the Romney campaign...quit blaming the President, you are just parroting what the Repubs say.

Jack,

Couldn't agree more. Obama and Biden are an embarrassing duo and have only succeeded in dividing this country. Go Mitt!

Jack K...how did you feel about Bush. Did he restore our hope or almsot bankrupt us with his policies of hands off? Romney things the middle class top end is $225,000.00. Wish I was pulling down that kind of dough so I could feel good about Romney.

every time they blame Bush it is a sign of a weak leader

No Jean---every time a party does NOT take personal responsibility for the their screw-ups.... and then-in turn- tries to blame the person trying to fix the situation-for not fixing it fast enough----shows absolutely no ability to ever lead!!

Has everyone forgotton who really created the "mess"?
It was not the Bush clan who created and accepted all the cash from "Fannie and Fredie" . Do some research before you post. It was Barney Franks and Christopher Dodd. Only then did "Wallstreet" sell these assets on open market. Have any of you refinanced a home loan and saw your payment goes to someplace other than the original lender? It was SOLD. That does NOT make it "wallstreets" problem. It makes it originators woe. So, this whole blame Bush nonsense for past 4 yrs is insanity. The Dems had the whole collapse at their fingertips and now run on blaming Bush 4 yrs later.

I agree completely with your sentiment!

Gee...let me guess. You're in a union.

No Soldiersmom--I am not in a union--but I do respect all of those who fought so hard and endured so much to give workers a voice! Don' t be afraid to read a history book or two! Also--from your other posts-you mention that your husband was in one of our armed services--it's how he went to college? So---he's one of the 47% of people living off the government? Him, retirees and students--Mitt thinks you all feel entitled to funds--even though your husband honorably served our country, retirees worked their entire adult lives for what they will get back and every child in the USA should have the right to a higher education and a chance at a job where they can earn a living wage! Mitt will create jobs alright--minimum wage jobs without benefits--because after all-it's what he believes we deserve!

Tom...it was banks who caused this by making bad loans and then blaming the people for lying instead of them taking responsibility for lack of due diliegence. All those loans ran through banks and banks ok'd the paperwork and never really looked at exactly who was asking for the money. Bush to blame...he sure was. It is not weak to state the obvious.

Nice to see Nurses for Obama. The Cleveland Clinic's CEO believes in Obamacare and so does Massachusetts. It is a system of private insurers offering plans to uninsured residents who pay reasonable premiums based on their incomes and have the finest medical care in the world. Note: it does not affect those who are insured through employers! It actually will increase the number of healthcare job openings, which are the kind of jobs we need with good pay and benefits.

hey Nursie, you wont be so happy when your Obama ruins everything with his healthcare plan, by the way, where are you a nurse? kinda going against everything the doctors and nurses in my hospital want., they will fight obamacare till the end, the doctors all agree its the worse thing ever, will ruin our care and put horrible limits on testing.........obama care will be the downfall of my hospital

@ Tom Harrell...boy do you have that right. Few people have researched this, therefore they do not understand it.

Here are Bill Clinton's words on September 25, 2008:
"I think that the responsibility that the Democrats had may rest more in resisting any efforts by Republicans in Congress or by me when I was President to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac."

And Congressman Artur Davis (D-AL) September 30, 2008:
"Like a lot of my Democratic colleagues I was to slow to appreciate the recklessness of Fannie and Freddie. I defended their efforts to encourage affordable homeownership when in retrospect I should have heeded concerns by their regulator in 2004. Frankly, I wish my Democratic colleagues would admit when it comes to Fannie and Freddie, we were wrong."

I think some nurses broke into the medicine cabinet... This election is NOT about Bush... It's about the economy that Obama didn't do anything to fix... It's about all the 2008 campaign promises that he's failed to deliver on... He's banking on you forgetting all those promises... Don't let him off the hook... It's about the lies regarding Romney's comments on the auto bailout... Never have I seen a president distort a record so bad and so often... And it's all about the lies regarding Benghazi... Obama has proven not to be trustworthy, and hasn't earned my vote...

Reply to Red who calls people names like "Nursie" (I'm not a nurse but have an M.B.A. with a specialization in research). You indicate you speak for all doctors and nurses at your hospital which is doubtful. Where do you work? Romneycare (template for Obamacare) has been in effect since 2006 in Massachusetts. Massachusetts General just received the #1 hospital ranking in the country and hasn't been brought down and neither have the other top notch institutions there. 65% of residents are still on their employers' health insurance plans (you mean they didn't lose their health insurance?), 16.4% on Medicare, and 16.6% (the uninsured) have selected private health insurance plans offered by the state through Romneycare. Note Medicaid is gone. Instead these funds reduce the insurance premiums of the uninsured based on their income.

if it wasent for barak we wouldent have half the benifits that we do now since romney hates the poor

being poor has benefits ???
free rent
free food
free utilities
free phones
free healthcare
yep alan said it all

Alan may I suggest a few night english classes with all that free time you have since you are getting all these benefits

Ditto! I am NOT voting for the Koch brothers!

Obama and Biden all the way.

Tina: seriously?! The best first lady we have ever had?!! Let me leave you with a few names of TRUE first LADIES, with the emphasis on ladies. Jackie Kennedy, Roslyn Carter, Barbara Bush, Laura Bush, Lady Bird Johnson... I couldn't, wouldn't include Michelle Obama with that group of LADIES.

Ann-Margaret...please. She is every bit as classy as any of those women.

classy first lady, YOU mean the one who GD;d America for over 20 yrs, OH yeah, she is classy allright, that is the biggest joke i read today

Right on Tina!!!!

HEY! We will have none of that sense around here! ;-)

Have you ever read a newspaper? They do it every election year...it's called EDITORIAL...

No.

Wow Becky...just wow!

Yea and we can add Jeffrey Immelt of GE, Obama's jobs czar to the list. He just moved his entire X-Ray division to China. I know. I was in the medical equipment business. Next time you get an x-ray look where the equipment was made. Vote Romney. He'll stop the cheaters.

Michael----there is a video showing GM being part of Communist China's endorsement & celebration of its communism. China must be laughing every night about USA .
Pravda, the Russian paper has written an article about the sheeples in America going to socialism w/o a fight.

mike its your fault that the auto industry is the way it is ...when you buy a car every 35 years they miss your support

Michael, every USA car manufacturer has setup business in China. It is the largest growing market in the world after all. This would have happened no matter who is in the White House. Growing markets lure business, always has and always will.

Jeez Michael...if Obama didn't move in and take care of business the car companies would have gone bankrupt just like Mittens said. And then Michael...who has the kind of money to buy a car company? I know...the Chinese. That is what would have happened and all...and I mean all of the car industry would be gone.

Michael-

Your comment is so il-informed, it isn't funny. Before bankruptcy, GM was bloated with excess dealerships. The bankruptcy forced GM to clean up their dealer network, and yes, dealerships were closed. How many dealerships would have been closed if Obama didn't intervene??? How about all of them?

Also, this China stuff is crazy. China is the number one car market in the world, and ALL carmakers are doing what they can to get market share in that country. GM is making money in China, and it helps their bottom line. Why don't you anti-auto-bailout people comment on how many jobs GM created in this country since bankruptcy? Again, I recently read they are opening a new high-tech IT center in Austin, Texas and are hiring 700 people...another positive report.

Gee, what would have happened if he didn't save any of them.. To horrible to think about.

Melissa, you also used 'profanity'. Are you going to remove your post, too? ;-))

Ditto!!! The only candidate that is speaking about the issues and the tough decisions ahead!

Anita ????? With the congress of DO NOTHING BUT BRING OBAMA DOWN,is incorrect ,,,
on day one obama had a super majority in the house and senate he could have passed anything he wanted but he did not once he figured out he could not pin the bi-partisin tag on his marxist ideas ,he quit submitting bills

Did you copy this straight from a union flyer??? Sure sounds like the ones I have been receiving from them....almost word for word!

Do you remember seeing the Repubs in Congress on the news, supposed to be voting on a bipartisan issue...they all sat there with their arms folded, refused to even participate. THAT is how NOT to run a country. Vote them all out!

Do you really think that only he rich can help bring class size down to under 20 students. Really? Are you that ignorant? In order to pay for more teachers you will need a working middle class. Not one sponging on the government. The wealthy are the ones who will provide those jobs. Where does Obama plan on making more jobs? (Crickets Chirping) Answer, he doesn't. Romney has the experience to fix it. Quite honestly, I don't care who gets rich as long as the economy gets fixed. Obama and his Keynesian economics has never worked were as tax cuts have worke every time they were tred.

Even when the Dems had control...some were voting with the Republicans..."bipartisan stye." Wish the Repubs would have done the same when it was their turn. They say it but don't do it.

Anita, Thanks for the laugh. I can't wait until Obama becomes president so he can implement his policies and finally get the economy growing. 12 years of Bush is enough!

right, Obama for the people , he wants all of YOU beneath him, gimmie gimmie gimmie, so china can own us a little more every day. YOU want socialism, well you just might get it
VOTE ROMNEY FOR A MORE PROSPEROUS AMERICA

WELLSAIDWEARETHEKEY............very good post!!! Like i been saying, " I never seen a poor man give another man a job"
we need a leader who knows the business, one who understands how the small business owners operate. Small business create YOUR jobs, tax them more and OBAMA PUTS THEM OUT OF BUSINESS AND YOU LOSE YOUR JOB PEOPLE,,,,,,,,its really very simple!

Curt Fell...as I noted at the end of this blog...the UN observers are coming to only 20 states. You can assume that they haven't come to Texas before now. If they break our rule of closer than 100 feet (I think thats the distance) we will just 'ride them out of town on a rail'! This is Texas! LOL! This is one great state!

sodiermom: thank your child for his military service ; you are correct about the socialism---a way for government to own the individual.

Boy have you been brainwashed...I hope you will hear truth some day.

Do you always believe everything you read?
Lol

soldiermom surely needs Obamacere for psychiatric help. First of all, if Obamacare was socialized medicine, it wouldn't have been put into the hands of private insurance.

Internet purchases should legally be taxed according to the state where the product is delivered to. That is why reputable online sellers like Amazon charge a sales tax according to the buyer's address. There is a loophole in the law that many online sellers use to not charge the appropriate state sales tax. Even Bush talked about closing this loophole as states are missing out on millions of dollars of sales taxes.

Wait soldiermom...did you see the one where Bush worked with the Saudis and the Isealis to bring about 9-11? How about the Kennedy assasination? Jackie married Onassis because he needed to control her for the new world order. Wait...Roswell, New Mexico...back in the hanger their are aliens. Hey soldiermom....like I told somebody above...teach the Socialist in Washington and don't collect SOCIAL Security...don't compromise your values.

Obamacare aka Romneycare in Massachusetts is a system of private insurers offering plans to the uninsured. The uninsured pay reasonable premiums based on their income. Instead of your taxes paying hospitals for surgeries, cancer treatments, emergency room visits, etc., for the uninsured, insurance companies pay and monitor costs as they normally do. Subsidizing health care premiums is more cost effective than Medicaid and reduces your tax burden. Hope misfortune never comes your way and you are always personally responsible for your health care and can pay for exorbitant insurance premiums if you lose your job or ability to work under Romney.

seriously, the ties to anti american extremists was in front of our face 4 years ago.........remember his buddy Bill Ayers.....the bomber? Enough said!!

@Helen...at the Dem convention they they pronounced: "We all belong to the Government." Can you believe this? I was shocked.

"Soldiermom" has officially jumped the shark. Not worth responding to anymore.

The UN is sending 'observers' to US voting sites to monitor our elections. Approved by the Administration. Here in Texas our Attorney General says he will arrest them. Wish they had done that to the billy club wielding Black Panthers at the voting station in Philadelphia.

@Phyllis Stager - you do realize that this UN partnered group that observes elections worldwide has been observing every State & National Elections in the US since...GASP!...dare I say it?....since President George W. Bush granted permission for this in 2002.

Sorry to burst your bubble but the internet is your friend. Try using it to find some facts ;-)

coming fron someone who has open and closed 5 nail salons in the past 4 years your opinion will only be taken with a grain of salt

what dribble. O had the Congress to do his bidding until 2010. Then, the people saw they were losing their freedom by government over-reach.
"Can't see the truth"? Oh, yes, history tells us of the fools that vote out of emotion , "what can my country do for me", indoctrination and ignorance. We see the truth----it is in the history books, it is in fact checks, it is in the voting records, it is in the spending records, it is in the words of questioned gov/military officials, it is in the actions of DC.

KIM L....
You have the wrong person....
Is it your M O to slam and demean a person you don't even know?
LOL

helen...please...you lost so many rights under the Bush years that you have to look no further than Bush.

Anita you are a despicable person. George Bush senior fought bravely in ww2 and his father was an honorable u.s. senator. You spreading lies about the Bushes says a lot about you and nothing about them.

@ Brian Adams
I didn't mention the Bushes in this post? I voted for dad Bush. It is YOU who is dispicable, insulting someone you don't even know. If you can read, I mentioned the Koch bros, and Rove. Hellooooooooo

@Helen: You are good! You are the Ohio I remember and love!

NOT Obama!!! Any woman that does vote for him does not know enough about this presidential election!

Yes, its only about woman on this election. Sheesh. Do you even think maybe its bigger than genger/race/aboration...how about 17 TRILLION in debt...that Obama added. OH yes....he inherited that problem. He spent it just did not worK. Gov't motors has no clue he gave all their cash to China. Yeah, he really was Pro-Union. Give me a break.

Like what? Obama's policies have resulted in higher unemployment, lower family income then under Bush, lower home values, higher healthcare costs, higher gas prices, higher college costs, less secure Medicare and Social Security programs, record spending, debt and deficits. Thank goodness that women are not subject to these realities.

@Tom Harrell: We have become a nation of 'its all about me and MY special interest' in stead concern about the future of our nation and our freedoms.

WHY are both papers a joke? Cite some facts if you are going to offer an opinion...

Steve...why didn't you put the fire to Bush's feet? Bush cratered the US economy by putting 2 wars on a credit card. He allowed Wall Street to run wild...do you remember credit swaps? Bush cratered the economy and we are turning around. Wish it was faster but the guy deserves another 4 years.

We kids were told that we had to work for college, not expect the governemnt to pay. Our parents saved for us & we worked for the rest.
Reality check: Michelle O has spent millions in clothes, birthdya parties, vacations. Class envy is so unbecoming.
Work hard & make something out of yourself, as did Romney. He gave his inheritance to charity & started his own business. Academia indoctrination, everyone---here it is.

Oh, You poor thing. I worked 2 jobs in college and my dad said he would only help me if I paid up front in advance for the 1st semester of each year. Oh ...and they didn't have Pell grants when I went to college. Get a grip. Stop the whining. The military paid for my husbands degree and believe me as a special forces guy he paid DEARLY for his college degree. You might just have to do what regular people do and go to a community college first and pay as they go and not put it on a credit card. We have a president who is putting out financial system of a credit card but take my advice and don't fall into that trap.

Wait helen..wait soldiersmom...wait Conner...Romney has changed his mind and is all for education. Can't imagine he would stop financial aid for college students...not Mittens. Mittens wouldn't lie would he???

Conner, borrow all the money you want to pay for college. No one is stopping you. Romney won't stop you. Not that it will change your mind but Obama was raised by his grandparents who were wealthy. His grandmother was Vice President of the Bank of Hawaii.

obama is our only hope for change the whole world hates us ever since bush invaded iran

Hey Alan T. That's funny! Bush invaded Iran!!!! What city? Did they use tanks or fighter jets. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! I sure hope your're not older than a grade school kid but you have definitely drank the Koolaid.

"Who has ever heard of Marines being unarmed in a foreign land" - it is the decision of the Ambassador to decide if the troops will be armed on Embassy grounds. It's always been that way for ages, not since 2008. Try learning how our Embassies work before posting such drivel.

helen...the PD has been traditionally conservative. This country was founded on religious freedom. That is why the Pilgrims came here. RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. The right to practice your particular religion and not have to bow to the beliefs of the government. War...we privatized a lot of that so rich kids would not have to dodge a draft...and who lead the way on that...Dick Cheney...the draft dodger and future owner of Halliburton.

@Helen...again I have to say Kudos for your words. Its scary to see a populous which is more concerned about 'free birth control pills and cell phones' than about our economic and national security and our liberty.

@soldiermom: Alan T is only quoting Biden, who just this last week asked a crowd "How many of you have served in Iraq and Iran?" It was a joke by Alan T. Biden is our national 'stand up' comic.

You Do know that Mass. is approx. 80 percent democrat correct?????

I say again. Obama keeps saying he is for fair treatment of women. Did you know that female employees are paid 16% LESS than the men in the White House for comparable jobs? did you know that speaking of "binders" Obama asked for a binder of Muslim women to be considered for white house positions? He not only set up a preferential barrier to all women but he already has in place a position of discrimination regarding equal pay for equal work. Am I upset? Yea.

Yes. Those Democrats were open minded enough to listen to his "malarkey". They elected him to run their state and now they are telling you clearly what they think of his record. He can't muster the vote in his home state.

Just like Gore v Tennessee in 2000

I hear you Elayne...I won't be voting for Mittens either.

Proof? I'm guessing this is just more drivel from you....

omg paranoid much? Every time something does not go the Repub's way, they cry about "liberal media" and now "biased moderator." Give me a break. You're only happy if your candidate does NOT say something embarrassing during a speech, and you crown him the victor!

Kathy Hammond...wish I knew what it is like to live on South Park in Shaker or in the rich sections of Westlake. I know you live there if you think Mittens will help you. Wish I was rich and he would help me.

My 401k is up over 40% since Obama took office after tanking under a Republican President....and that is fact! My 401k took a bath under Bush but not only recovered its losses, it is up over 40%. That is the fact that I care about.

Curt,

You might want to put that money under your mattress if Obama gets elected again. Enjoy looking at the statement now then watch as the market crashes the day after the election if Obama is still in. Want to see the market soar? Vote for Romney.

Oooh Steve..I also heard Obama is going rape our women and pillage our homes. Where is there any proof of what you are saying? Paranoia is running rampant with you Romney people. On this blog so far I have read about an Obama that I never realized existed. And you are right...Trump is scared to death and should be. And Steve...our 401Ks were tested with the Bush administration cratering our investments. Boy you Mitten folks have a short memory.

You are counting inflated money. The market is up but your money is worth less. Not quite worthless, but getting closer everyday. QE1-3 don't help the middle and lower class. Everything gets more expensive due to the printing presses and the dollar losing value (purchasing power). The real trouble lies ahead when interest rates can no longer be kept artificially low.

Tom, I agree 100% Gets some guts, use your real name!

Amen

Correctomundo tom m

tom m: I think Alan T was joking in reference to last week when Biden asked a crowd, "How many of you served in Iraq and Iran?"

jon e...wish i was a rich guy like you and i would feel better about mittens.

deborah...read how long it took us to recover from the Great Depression of 1929. Think for yourself. How did we get to the mess we were in. Stop and think about it yourself and not listen to what either side says. If you care at all about women's rights think about who will protect them for you. And if you think Romney and Ryan will then vote for them but think about it first.

OH please YOUR womens rights are not going to be affected by Romney in the white house, that is horse manure C Minet. You want birth control, buy it! You want an abortion go get one, Romney has enough to deal with, he will not touch Roe vs Wade. I am all for womens rights, I AM WOMAN HEAR ME ROAR
ROMNEY/RYAN for a more prosperous America

Elayne...he led them to slaughter. He did. The world begged that we not go to war in Iraq. That is when the world loss respect for us. There were no weapons of mass destruction. None at all. Look how many soldiers died to prove that. Bush tried to be a celebrity on the deck of that aircraft cariier when he said-job complete. It wasn;t completed. It was only beginning. I really, really hate to say it but those kids and older folks died for nothing. The fall of Iraq has lead to rise of the Muslim Brotherhood. That is what Hussein was fighting...the rise of the Moslem world.

Elayne...what country are we having trouble with in particular in the middle east...yes...Iran...and who had invaded Iran....yes...Elayne...Hussein. And guess who was supporting Hussein...yes...Elayne...we were. So what does Jr. do that even his old man knew better than do...yes Elayne he killed Hussein. Elayne why would we kill the enemy of our enemy??? Better the devil you know than the one you don't.

except the fix you are describing is marxism

tom om posting more drivel about marxism. Buy a clue already. You wouldn't know what marxism is if it slapped you in the face.

tom m...yes...Marxism...don't forget that if Obama stays in he will unleash the boogey man too. Give me a break with all of this paranoid dribble.

You're with slow & dumb

Carole, your statement about $800 billion being robbed from Medicare renders the rest of your statements as unbelievable. Medicare is not being robbed. This $800 billion is in savings from the provider side of Medicare, not for the recipients. Romney/Ryan have this $800 billion cut also in their plan. It is money that Medicare will no longer have to spend on the providers as the Hospitals. Pharmaceutical companies, etc have already agreed to the price cuts.

You should try to stop regurgitating Fox Snooze....and check out the facts....

Dear Carole, I have personally heard MANY vile remarks made by Repub's when they should have been discussing issues, but had no verified facts to substantiate their arguments. There are extremists on both sides; they do not represent either party as a whole. However, I have never heard so many blatant untruths regurgitated by Repub's as in this campaign. Most of these things are just NOT true, and are designed to manipulate people's vote by fear. Do you hear yourself say these things? Do you really think we will be living in quonset huts and obeying a Muslim master if the President is re-elected? These are things that have been printed, and offered as fact...and not by the left. The country is CERTAINLY divided right now, because times are hard, and people are looking to place BLAME rather than SOLVE problems. Just PLEASE stop repeating ridiculous things that you have heard from biased sources, without investigating on your own. This is not a good way to develop opinions.

Carole...just as I told the guy above us in the blog...stop reading those wacky paranoia breeding websites. BTW...I heard Obama is going to unleash plague and shake the walls to they crumble. If there were no transparency than why have the repubs been bucking him all along the way? Why are you outraged? How would you know if Obama were not so transparent?

Absoluty correct Carole, im so glad to hear comments from somebody that didnt copy and past a talking point! Imagine a health care bill signed that nobody read? If that doesnt point out what kind of brains the democratic party have, but then again, just like the sheep that follow, Nobody reads the truth, nobody wants to hear the facts, they been voting that party for so long they dont realize it is NOT the democratic party party anymore, Its extreme left liberals, and their beliefs are sinking us in the quick sand faster than the titanic!

@Curt Fell....the actual $716 billion that the Affordable Health Care Act will be taking from Medicare is in the form of cutting fee for service funds to Hospitals, Doctors and Nursing homes. Which will result in (as these entities have stated) refusal of service to Medicare recipients...thus the elderly will be deprived directly by an indirect cut to their services. Hope you arent on Medicare, friend.

@ Phyllis Stager - again, the $716 billion is not a cut but a savings on the provider side that the providers have already agreed upon. There will be no reduction in benefits or denial of service. This is an old T-Party theme that has been outed as a lie.

Also, the Romney-Ryan plan also has the SAME $716 billion in cuts in their plan!!!!

If you want to blame someone for this, then blame goes to both parties...but there really is no blame to go about for this...

@Curt Fell...read this column by Bob Graham, democratic senator from Florida:
http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/columns/the-truth-about-those-medicare-cuts/1257731

It lists the cuts to providers...providers have already said they will be forced to take NO Medicare patients as a result of that. Read the whole thing. Medicare patients are going to be shafted. They will retain the same benefits, but no one will provide them...

Also, you don't automatically get prescription drug coverage with Medicare, you have to sign up to pay more for that coverage added to what you already pay Medicare and your 'supplement'. What you pay for Medicare once you are on it is about the same as private insurance is for an individual paying out of pocket. It is a fair deal now, but when providers turn you down...you will be in a fix.

Endorsements are always found on the EDITORIAL page of a newspaper. Do you people not understand this? Oh wait, I forgot...it's that 87% of ALL media are liberal biased...c'mon now, are you really hearing yourselves??

Colleen just like what McMillan said..that is what newspapers are do...endorse candidates. They do it all the time. They publish whole sheets of the paper with endorsements. Colleen...I am beginning to doubt your sincerity for Romney since you didn't know that.

No Fred...they will be out of business thanks to Gore...the great inventor of the Internet. The internet is killing papers and not liberlaism.

thats why i quit them! altho my dog still likes a good paper now and then

Let me guess, I assume you didn't feel this way about the PD when they endorsed, George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan??

The national debt was approximately $5 trillion when Bush took office and it was approximately $11 trillion at the end of his last budget. I am not stopping to look it up right now, but the debt now is approximately $16 trillion. We went into a recession at the end of 2007, but that was just the beginning...the government ALWAYS spends more than it takes in during a recession because revenues are down and unemployment claims are up and more people need Medicaid and food stamps. I would like to see some sources for some of these wild claims. Go to FactCheck.org and Politifact.com for some facts. And we should all try to be a little more civil to one another.

Annie...it was the PD who lead the way into the investigation of Dimora and Russo.

I guess that you just enjoy parroting the liberal agenda.....where has it gotten you so far? Unemployment still in the tank and food stamps and welfare higher than when Obama took over......if that's what you want, then you don't know what is good for the country. Who do you think supplies the jobs to the middle class...quit watching MSNBC, NBC, CBS, and ABC and find out what is really happening...the REAL TRUTH...not what you are trying to fabricate.

BAZINGA!

Liberals do not counterpoint. They demean, belittle, call names and/ or skirt the truth -- Alinsky Rules. The naivete of repeating liberal mantra points to lack of knowledge.

Check out the Obama tax plan. You will find that taxes on the Middle Class will increase exponentially.

Ummm Helen, sounds like you're doing the same thing you're accusing others of...you know, that "typical" liberal agenda...

jerry...why then are you parroting the tea bagger agenda. You are not parroting the republican conservative Barry Goldwater conservatism. Where is your REAL TRUTH??? It is the REAL TRUTH by jerry is all. There is no truth in any of your words.

Anita you keep pointing out the sad state of our economy, fiscal situation, and failed foreign policy as if Obama hasn't been president for the past four years.

Hahaha...you DO realize that newspapers and internet news utilize the same news services?? Ever heard of AP (Associated Press), for example? And what is "what the people want"..."an agenda that MOST people are against"...WTH are u talking about? Don't you know that there are differing opinions out there? This makes me sad that the internet is so readily accessible to ANYONE...

McMillan we are fighting a tough battle here. These nattering nabobs of negativsm...oh and McMillan...don't tell them who said that. I think most of these people are getting there facts from the conspiracy sites.

Think about that statement Tom...so Mittens is just "anything." There is a good reason.

You're just plain ignorant with that response. Grow up....this is an adult forum.....

I agree, this comment is vile and racist, besides being totally absurd. And they say liberals are the ones who insult and call names...HA!

I ask myself...how does one fight racism and ignorance?

Hopefully Rick we can send Obummer back to Kenya, and he can take his snipy wife with him. If i ever see their faces on my television again it will be too soon!

Rick: I hope you are just making these kind of comments to stir things up. President Obama is displaying true "Christian" values with regard to helping Americans during the recession which President Bush and his team created. With Obamacare, he is trying to provide those who are poor or not insured the opportunity to purchase health insurance from an assortment of private health insurance plans (with an income based sliding scale for premiums). Medicaid funds go toward these premiums. He is making sure those who are out of work or in need have food stamps (and a recession would up this number). Instead of having to still finance and pay for ill-advised wars created under Republicans, your taxes help your fellow Americans, and who's to say you might be one of them one day. Mitt Romney shows no compassion whatsoever. Hope you stay healthy and wealthy and never have to live in a grass hut yourself if you ever expect any help in a time of need under Romney.

Wow you sound just like Obama. Arrogant with no clue about the real world.

Wow, you sound just like Romney..arrogant and clueless, with no plan, period!

The "real world" NOT according to Ali W:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2011/11/21/fox-news-viewers-uninformed-npr-listeners-not-poll-suggests/
http://www.alternet.org/story/153214/7_things_fox_viewers_are_wildly_misinformed_about
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/23/fox-news-less-informed-new-study_n_1538914.html

LOL I thought Fox News called itself the "fair and balanced" news channel...sounds like the balance is pretty low. The poll suggests that those who hear news sound bites at the gym, or scan internet headlines, are BETTER informed than those who watch Fox News LOL...too funny...

Ali...Romney thinks the middle class makes $200,000.00 a year. Romney has no idea about the middle class. He did well in business because his rich father sent him to the best schools. He got rich beating the middle class down by buying companies. Draining their resouces and then leaving them to fend for themselves...some made it and many didn't. Please wake-up and stop repeating rheroric.

Anita please regale us with the time you voted for a conservative for president. You so opened minded and all...

@Anita...with research and truth.

laurie you forgot to mention .....
Communist Party USA Endorses Obama For President

The Social Democrats USA endorsed the Obama / Biden Democratic

Obama Wins Marxist Endorsement from Chavez

James...is that the best you got. IF Obama wasn't for the common guy like you and me then they would have backed Romney. How can Romney support the little guy and have the commies not back him? Either the commies are right or Romney is right. Then you have to decide if you are one of those little guys.

Chavez, Putin and Castro also endorse our president...just out today! LOL!

No one is telling anyone how to worship or believe.
If you are against abortion so be it. If you're pro choice, so be it. It isn't anyone's business how you live your life when it comes to personal subjects like that.

Dude, this election is about anything EXCEPT religion. You're confusing your indignant reaction to others' beliefs as a valid reason to vote. And what do you mean, the President voted for infanticide? Facts, please, so I know what you're talking about? I really don't think you can call anyone, particularly the President, "Pro-death."

John McMillan - while in Congress he voted (twice I believe) AGAINST the "Born Alive Act". This act would allow any baby born alive (when the intention was an abortion) to be allowed to live. The baby was born, alive, and our President voted in favor of allowing this baby to be killed via neglect. That is the definition of infanticide. If you really are looking at the President's record, you will see he is consistently voting AGAINST the protection an innocent baby. That is pretty "Pro-Death" to me.

Ms. Antonacci - this administration absolutely IS telling me what and how I have to worship and believe based upon their support of the HHS mandate. I am being told that I have to pay for things against my religious beliefs....what else would you call that?

T Roshak...is anybody telling you how to pray? I didn't think so. Before I go any farther...read a little about Mr. Romney's beliefs. I don't believe in the same things he does but he has every right in this country to believe what he wants to believe. If somebody is Catholic and they don't want to have an abortionk, they don't have to have an abortion...it is that plain an simple.

@helen is a typical conservative blaming people for something that isn't there. Where did I call someone a name? All I stated was to not post any drivel without checking the facts. If you call that demeaning, well then that is really your problem.

The Free Beacon you listed points out exactly the statement I made "The U.S. ambassador to any nation ultimately decides whether Marines are authorized to carry ammunition, according to a GOP national security adviser knowledgeable about American embassy protocols." Ambassador Patterson may or may have not permitted the Marines to be equipped with live ammunition that day. It is the Ambassador's decision and not the Presidents, just as I have stated.

Also, there is an update at the end of the Jan Morgan link that states"

"Further Marine spokesman at Pentagon Lt Col Chris Hughes says these reports are NOT true. This is on the record:

"The Ambassador and RSO have been completely and appropriately engaged with the security situation. No restrictions on weapons or weapons status have been imposed. This information comes from the Det Commander at AMEMB Cairo.”

So, in fact, you are backing up my statement to helen about her saying "Who has ever heard of Marines being unarmed in a foreign land---yes, since 2008." She tried to blame the President.

Helen...Mr Ryan and his cronies voted against more money for security of embassies.

@ C.Minot: It was admitted in the congressional hearings that FINANCES for security was not the problem. It was ....down right poor judgement in the face of pleas from Ambassador Stevens and others. A bit too cavalier for me.

Our family thanks your husband for his service as an Army Ranger. Sounds like he had some close calls.
You comport yourself well against the liberal attacks. Some very insulting as saying you need medical help.
Typical liberal response when there is no valid counterpoint is to attack the other person. Stay strong soldiermom.

soldiermom11...State Bill 5. Who backed it? That's all I have to say.

@ carl rice: Well...end the Bush Era...oust Obama. (its all Bush's fault)

Oh my, 16,000 new tax agents? So unemployment is already improving under the President's plan??? Great!!

Here is a link to an article that debunks THAT silly rumor:

http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2012/jul/10/tom-price/price-16000-irs-agents-will-enforce-obama-health-c/

Media Matters is a liberal entity. Give us something unbiased politically. You can do better than that.

@ PHYLLIS
How about YOU do your own research. I could list 20 sites that debunk lies and that still wouldn't be enough for any conservative. You just can't face the truth.
I'll tell you what, how about you list some sites? How's that? I'll wait.........
GOP=party first,country last

@Anita...Here is a point by point comparison of Romney's tax plan and Obama's tax plan. That is a more rational way of assessing 'what is to come'. Instead of ranting about one or the other...look at them both.

http://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/tax-proposals-obama-vs-romney.aspx

I have a question. If Romney did so well as governor, why is he down 16 points in his state of Massachusetts? That says a lot to me.

With the...
Radical TEA PARTY in the congress, they vowed not to pass anything Obama presented. The first two years they filibustered.
They are not for the people. Their priorities are PARTY FIRST, COUNTRY AND CITIZENS LAST.

I agree with that observation, M-S...we need to fire the entire Congress and start over with a group that actually cares about its constituents!!

After all, as pronounce by the Democratic Convention: "We all belong to the government."

Before the Tea Party, congress was Democrat majority from 2006-2010.

How true...

Unlike Clinton & Edward primary voters in 2008?

Not trying to be manly. I am a female CPA.

You don't have to dig down far CHUM! Do the math if you know how. If not, find a concerned 12 year old American and get him to explain it to you.

Good luck!

Murphy, how sexist of you. Don't you think you should apologize to the lady?

Ditto Jim........ tHANK YOU

You sound like a Bubba.

The thing that leaps out at me when I hear of how Romney will fix all that is wrong with our economy is this: He made 22 million last year, all of which is from investments. How do the corporations that he invested in make profits and pay dividends plus make their stock prices higher ? They lower costs. And we all understand that shipping jobs to the Pacific rim countries is is most popular way for American companies to lower their cost. So, this being said, isn't it fair to say that rich guys including Romney made their money last year by investing in companies that shipped our jobs offshore ? Doesn't that fly in the face of "I'll stand up to China?"

"Corporate America is not the problem". I thoroughly disagree. All major corporations must bow to the shareholders, which require profits using any means necessary. Do you deny that's how Mitt made his money last year ? His investments made money for him. Not automatically a bad thing in and of itself. Now, Mitt didn't personally participate in sending those jobs to China. But he certainly did reap great rewards from it. Doesn't that make him part of the problem ? Record profits by many US corporations were made by shipping American production overseas. To deny this as the major reason why US business is in such trouble is to deny understanding of the root problem itself.

"I would like to see what would happen if they decided to cut back 10%" Please refer to cutbacks by GE Capital (the largest division of GE). Far more than 10%. And GE has also closed down all US production of radiographic equipment, sending this manufacturing to China. We have been discussing corporate policies, which depart significantly from small and middle market business. My hat is off to you who run non-shareholder driven business. My respects.

I voted yesterday and voted for Libertarian candidates when offered...except for President. We have quite a few Libertarian Judges running and I voted for the libertarian rather than the entrenched antique Ralph Hall. But to waste my vote in the presidential election....couldn't do it.

I know it is my opinion, Murphy-Solon. That is why I posted what I did.

Murphy-Solon...today...you are not quite the 'nice' guy I have come to know and respect. LOL!

I am sure the entire Middle East is endorsing Obama, too. Outside of their desire for whole sale destruction of the western world in favor of a Caliphate, Obama is the 'nice' guy who understands them until they achieve their goal.

Murphy-Solon, hey guy, I am not evaluating your character, I have no doubt as to that. You are a fine, fair guy. i was just sort of surprised about your 'medication' slam in response to David. As I see it David was logically associating 'endorsements' with other endorsers. LOL!

Murphy-S....I agree with you in what matters! Cheers.

Okay...Murphy-S. Forgive me, okay?

A guy who moved here from England was quoted as saying, "In England, if they see someone driving an expensive car, they ask why does that guy have the right to drive it? Who is he? In America they say, 'I want to get me one of those."

That is the essence of what America is about. That individuals have the opportunity to accomplish whatever they want. That is why people come here in droves. The right of the individual to achieve his dreams is uniquely American.

I have extrapolated/quoted this from a column:

http://townhall.com/columnists/brucebialosky/2012/10/22/the_single_reason_for_not_reelecting_barack_obama

It might be a fact that Clinton had a larger expansion than Reagan...However, Clinton was not bringing the country out of the malaise created when Carter was in office. I have never heard Obama claim that he can solve all of the problems, however his insistence that spending more money will solve the problems is flawed. I believe candidate Obama called the Bush deficits "unpatriotic".... I find that interesting since every deficit in his administration far outpaces the Bush deficits. As a candidate he also claimed that he would halve the deficit in three years or he would be a one termer....He increased it by 50%. So as a candidate he either did not know what he was talking about or he just said what he needed to say to get elected....I know they all do that, but I believe it is time for a change. Lower tax rates and potentially less government regulation can't hurt since the economy is clearly in the toilet and not making any headway.

Was this expansion because of government intervention or private enterprise?

Ah, shucks. I miss you guys too. But, I've been reading and watching, yet holding back. Less stress. And why try to have a friendly debate when others just want to take it to another level. So, see you at a later date.

You got that right Carol and it is an important statement! The future of this nation is more important to me than birth control and Big Bird. We are hanging by a thread right now. I hope that thread isn't snapped in November.

good sluething Carole, he has had in many failures since before we ever heard his name, !!

Oops mean had his HAND in many failures!

I used to go on Mother Jones to discuss articles. Mother Jones is a far left publication. You practically take your life in your own hands to discuss anything there if you are even slightly conservative or libertarian. If you are not very left you get mowed down with vicious, scathing name calling. On the Patch, so far, some can get a little snarky, but I can see Ohio liberals are not yet down in the ditch throwing pig poo at us. LOL! Three cheers for Ohio and The Patch.

Far Left:
Boston Globe
"IndyMedia" (these are scattered all over on the Web..)

Left of center:
NY Times
LA Times
Washington Post
Chicago Tribune
CBS
NBC
ABC

Centerist:
CNN
Newsweek
Denver Post
USA Today

Right of Center:
Boston Hearld
NY Daily News
Washington Times
Dallas Morning News

Far Right:
FOX

URL: http://able2know.org/topic/1448-1

@Dan,they always scream foul when it's not in their interest. They've got nothing, so all they do is protest to everything said and always ask for you to prove it. Well, my answer is do your own research and find the truth yourself, not saying they will accept the truth. They never do. It's like banging your head against the wall.....they will never get it!

I also did some research. You are completely correct. However, given the candidates that the Democrats offered in each of those elections where a Republican was elected the PD really had no choice. To say they were a sad bunch is an understatement. If you read what they wrote when they endorsed Clinton the first time you could just plug in the name Obama instead of Bush. I read the endorsement published in the Sunday paper....it was not an enthusiastic endorsement. Lukewarm at best!

I agree Richard. You know, with newspaper readership down and social media up, newspaper endorsements don't have the sway they once did.

AMA,
for the most part I agree with your list. You need to add the category "Propaganda" to the top of the list, then move every publication up one catagory and then it would be perfect.

I notice you cherry pick the parts of my comment that YOU think might win you pts. Fail.

I spoke of cutesy nicknames not political labels. What about the sexual nastiness?

Ah, Carole, haven't you heard the "Obummer" label that has been used time and time again on these posts?

Notice I said "trying".
We can't post what Obama's dog thinks 'cause Obama told us he ate his dog.

That's what Romney gets for trying to lay off Big Bird!

he is commander in chief of the military, and those numbers show lack of leadership
and Tom, Iforgot all about the death watch the news had everyday

The deaths of 4 Americans is a direct fail of our Commander-In-Chief.

I have no faith in Mr. Obama. He has not shown me that he has any of the demeanor, character, or compassion that a leader of a free country should have. He's secretive, manipulative, and as far as I can tell, unaware of the true nature of human suffering. All he has shown me is that he believes the myth of American Socialism and the 'theology' of Karl Marx. He is a man who is by nature oppressive, bullying, and dishonest. I wouldn't trust him to take out my garbage.

Very creative of you Kim L., impressive.

And neither do the people of his home state of Massachusetts! They made the mistake of electing him once and aren't making that mistake again.

Very Dronoid of you Dan, Not Impressive

Kim L., You go girl.

well murphy I looked it up and the numbers are actually correct, and why is it that it was Ok to bring the deaths up under bush but not Obama

Then why did NPR do the Silent Indictement of Bush and drop it when Obama won eh Murph?

Very Logical of her.

I agree, Richard. Except for the self serving 'leaks' from this administration, how can a presidential candidate know the intricate ins and outs of classified information.

your right, Obama had Biden, one of the Senates most accomplished in world Affairs. Romney has shown no interest in foreign affairs, and does NOT have anyone with experience in key roles He has picked a house extrerme right winger as his running mate. Then they have put together some of W's advisers to shape policy. This is a road to worse then nowhere!

Obamas base is still energized http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio

OH yea, the imfamous Obama phone lady, isnt she just precious! she probably also believes there are 57 states!! gimmie gimmie gimmie, what a concept

ENTITLEMENTS.......ILLEGALS ......AND OBAMA, OH MY!!!!

I'm well familiar with "Don't Mess With Texas". I think it started around 1986 or so when I was living in D/FW area. Now, i live in a Houston suburb.

Yes, we are the USA. However, there are too many Texans that believe that we should not belong to the USA. If I had a nickel for every pickup that I've seen with a "SECEDE" bumper sticker on it, I'd be part of the 1%....LOL!!! Those types are 'All Hat and no Cattle"...LOL!

@Curt...so you are a transplanted buckeye, also! As to the 'secede' Texans, it is really a 'states rights' sentiment. All the Texans I know are extremely patriotic and love this nation dearly. No greater WWII hero than Audie Murphy (who grew up not far from where I now live). The history of Texas is unique...the spirit of those who fought at the Alamo and San Jacinto...seems to be run in the veins of today's Texans.

Its Texans who have formed volunteer groups at the DFW to meet home coming soldiers returning from our current military actions. There are more homes with USA flags out front than anywhere else in the USA. Its truly a unique experience living here. Regardless of what the administration says, Texas will keep those UN observers 100 feet from the voting booths! All they have to say is 'Remember the Alamo'. LOL!

I go to the mechanic to get my oil changed. A group of locals sits around in the 'office/waiting' room. I get regaled with countryfied tales of the history of the characters of this town by natural born raconteurs. Its like nothing I have experienced anywhere else. Texans are a lot smarter than you think! LOL!

RED: And Bush has how much blood on his hands for lying about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Thousand of Americans killed and maimed. How can Republicans sleep at night?

SharEd, if Bush lied, so did Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, John Kerry and the rest of those idiots you vote for.

Hope And Change
Four More Years
Lean Forward
Yes We Can
Obama
NOT!

Our Freedom Won’t Last Four More Years Under Obama’s “Rule”!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imaSx4_04cA&feature=player_embedded

Murphy, I have a question. What is with the tea party hate from the left? I know you are independent and should bring a good middle ground assessment of where the hate for the tea party comes from.

Don't let the door hit you in the .....
Radical delusions.....reality hurts...the agony of defeat
Elections over.....snap out of it!

Actually, the states that are the most vocal critics of social safety nets are the states with the highest percentage of people using them. So the "lifelong welfare dwellers, food stamps, homeless, homeboys, hippies, druggies and illegal aliens" are more likely to actually be Republican!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/us/even-critics-of-safety-net-increasingly-depend-on-it.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/09/02/red-states-are-the-real-welfare-states/

http://www.policymic.com/articles/14007/food-stamp-use-is-highest-in-red-states-the-truth-republicans-do-not-want-you-to-know

Debbie-
Your first article is a perfect illustration of how handouts have gotten way out of hand. Not only do the poor receive money, but now we have a form of welfare in our tax program where those with children can get tax credits up to $3000 and earned income credit of up to $5900. We also allow tuition deduction. And, for these families to receive these handouts just for having kids, that means those without pick up the tab. Its time to give money to those deserving - the poor, medically needy, temporarily unemployed. Not just because they have families. That was their choice and the rest of us should not have to pay again for someone elses. And, these tax credits mean that people get money from the government, a tax refund, even when they owe no taxes - not just reducing their tax balance. If you are going to provide welfare, make it a separate program and make people prove they are really strapped - not just pass money out to them.
And, I want to see Social Security survive and the debt lessened - so forget about that 2% payroll tax reduction (sorry,this is what I corrected - was "deduction"). That IS how SS is funded after all. And, raise the wage limit of those paying in.

Well if all you say is true, Mr. Red, than you will be right there with us. You will be reaping too won't you?
And let's get this straight, ROMNEY LOST!!!! America held an election, and President Obama was elected for a 2nd term. Got it?

Make yourself a sign proclaiming the end is near. Station yourself on a busy corner. Or maybe the airport. Continue raving and ranting. It's your destiny, it seems........

And what was the economic stimulus that brought us out of the depression? Redistribution or Industry?

I personally know business leaders, CEO's , Company Presidents etc etc. who were planning on hiring the Wednesday after the election if Romney won.

Now, no more.
60 million people voted for more failure................................

By the way, all those government programs instituted by FDR (WPA, CCC, etc.) did not take us out of the depression. It was the industry required for War needs. You kill industry, private business with regulations and taxes, you will no longer have the essential financial sources to finance the deserving, nor will you have the jobs.

Besides those looking for a job who may need temporary help, there's the elderly, disabled or medical needy.
After that, people also need to take some personal responsibility too. They kept buying that bigger house, living paycheck to paycheck, with no guarantees that their home values would go up. For those who remain in their homes and didn't need to refinance, they should not be complaining about making those payments - they signed for them. What difference does it make if the home is 10 times more or less if they are living there - at least their taxes are less. Does anyone remember back in the 80's, I think it was, when rates were so high that people would get 5 year loans with balloon payments at the end? Did we come running to them to act like their parent who had to bailout the irresponsible kid who got in over their head?
And my latest - if you can't afford kids -don't have them. Why should I have to pay more in taxes just so others can get refunds, especially over having no tax due? Why should they get $3000 in child tax credits, or $5900 in earned income tax credits - and these do not just go to the poor. Why should people get to deduct tuition - if you want that education, you pay for it and don't expect to have my taxes be higher to give you that. And quit complaining about Social Security AND high taxes - I want SS to survive, the debt reduced, so forget about that 2% reduction in payroll taxes.
Thats my rant for the day. And not coldhearted.

So, do you believe that in order to reduce the wealth gap, the wealthy should be responsible for the funds to equalize the standard of living for all citizens? Thus it really shouldn't matter how hard you work, nor how many hours, or how smart you are nor how responsible you are as to taking on debts, etc., all should have equivalent housing, dining, vacations, and so forth?

What do you really visualize? No concern as to profit in order for an enterprise to continue to serve the public with its product and reward the 'owner' or management with only the satisfaction of living in the same neighborhood as the employees, driving the same Honda? Is it the view that the gas station attendant make the same as the gas station owner? The gas station owner worked and saved for 15 years before he came to own the business. The attendant is a married teenager with 2 kids and rather than save is in debt beyond his means to repay. Two different roads yet they both lead to equal compensation and standard of living?

It is a heartfelt idealistic view but it is against the nature of the species and common sense.

Phyllis-
I like your scenario. That means my family gets to sit back and just have to worry about walking to the mailbox to get our checks. Share the wealth! After all, if other people can be rich, why can't I?

In response to your "After all, if other people can be rich, why can't I?"

Then, there will be equality as NO one will be rich. That is one way to get rid of the rich...Hooray!

We'll all be poo!

Oops!
We'll all be poor!
But the other way was just as good! Was going to delete my goof, but when I saw my mistake, I got a good laugh - so I'll share.

lyn,
"We'll all be poo!" LOL you had it right the first time!

Lyn-you and I are on the same page!

Thanks Murphy, VERY well said! I was wanting to find the words to explain the same thing to these ladies, but you put it right out there, spot on! This is the problem, people. I don't think anyone seriously thinks that everyone should make the same money regardless of effort. That is a right wing fallacy put forth for political purposes. It is those that are WORKING and still living in poverty that are getting the raw deal. They deserve better from the companies that barely employ them. EXCELLENT explanation, Murphy!!

Have you reviewed the hourly wages for Walmart employees?
http://www.glassdoor.com/Hourly-Pay/Walmart-Stores-Hourly-Pay-E715.htm

The lowest paid employee makes $17,500 a year. The highest paid makes $20,500.

These are un-skilled as to category, some without even a high school diploma. What would be a fair salary for non skilled workers, sales clerks? Their skilled workers (pharmacy tech, Merchandise supervisor, etc.) are paid more.

What would we do without companies like Walmart to hire these unskilled workers? Are you willing to hire them at starting pay of $15.00-20.00 an hour? Do it.

You have to realistically consider the job and skills required. Do you expect that Walmart or MacDonalds worker to be making the same as say a teacher, accountant, nurse, lawyer, doctor,...where further education is required? I think that where a job involves risks, that can also bump up the pay - working in mines or window washer. Isn't that why we have minimum pay requirements? Walmart is always made out to be the bad guy. But, they pay much better than others in retail. And, I remember reading a few years back that despite what people think, they do make health plans available -even to the part time people. That is why you see more older people working there, for the benefits. Just because employees have to pay into it, doesn't mean that big bad Walmart is the bad guy. What do you think that clerk should be getting? You know how much benefits costs. Should these clerks have fully paid medical benefits and earn $65,000/year?