.
Feedback

Two 'Amazing and Passionate' Teachers Lose Jobs as Family Consumer Program Cut

District says cut of two positions far cry from possible 20+

The Avon Lake School District will cut its Family & Consumer Science (home economics) program in a continuing effort to shave $1 million off the budget and ensure the district is operating in the black in 2014.

Kim Bennett, who teaches high school Family Consumer Science (FCS) and Susan Carr, who teaches Learwood Middle School FCS, will both lose their jobs. The Avon Lake Board of Education made the decision at its Feb. 27 board meeting to “Rif” (reduction in force) the positions.

Superintendent of Schools Bob Scott said after the last levy failed, the district was forced to make some tough decisions, including eliminating positions.

The cuts are the latest in a pay freezes and personnel maneuvering to trim the district’s costs.

School union head Leslie Koelsch sent a letter out to union members after the school board voted Feb. 27, explaining how the board arrived at its decision.

“At the time Mr. Scott was projecting in the neighborhood of (eliminating) 40 FTEs (full time employees)," Koelsch said of when the levy failed last November. An FTE is actually a calculation with one FTE equaling $70,000.

Despite program cuts and wage freezes for teachers, the budget was $1.05 million over. Ten teachers in the district retired after the 2012-13 year, and the district opted not to replace them.

“These 10 cut positions (plus the secretaries) bring us very close to balancing our school budget,” Koelsch emailed to union members, noting that the 2 additional cuts almost balance the budget.

Scott said the decision was hard.

“We knew in November we had to meet fiscal year responsibility for 2014. We have to be in the black,” Scott said.

He said the board waited until Feb. 1 for incentives for retirements.

“It lets us take number of teachers we were going to have to let go from 20, down to 10, and then 2," he said. “It could have been worse. The saddest part is both teachers we lost were good teachers.

“Looking at programs, right now Family Consumer Sciences don’t need to continue. (A third) had already retired. It’s not that the classes weren’t valuable. We could potentially get (some classes) through LCC and LCJVS classes.”

“In reality though, any loss is still a loss,” Koelsch wrote. “I would be overjoyed right now if we were able to save these two staff members from their devastating loss. It is truly a sad day for the students and staff..."

One of the those teachers said it would be a loss to the district.

“I think the board made a mistake eliminating our department,” Carr said. “Family and Consumer Sciences teaches real life skills to students and also reinforces and applies core subject areas such as math, science, reading and composition. 

“The topics we teach are extremely relevant in today's society: healthy eating and good food choices, smart financial decisions, and maintaining healthy relationships. I know the ALCS is in a tight spot right now where money is concerned, but I am disappointed that they chose to completely eliminate our department as a way to remedy that situation.

She said the other teacher and she had preferred that only one of them be cut than to see the entire department go.

Carr said she hopes voters support the levy in May so no other programs suffer the same fate hers did. Scott said even if the levy passed, the program would not be reinstated soon.

A Lifetime Resident of Avon Lake March 2, 2013 at 05:26 pm
Lost in all this are the lessons which can be learned by the students. Guess what, you can't always have everything in life. This is a Economics 101 in real time. We all have to participate in the "shared sacrifice" our beloved leader never misses a chance to remind us of at every stop on his "tax the rich tour."
This includes especially our young, as their generation will be paying back this insurmountable federal deficit. Now, add to this increased property taxes for schools, the chances of them ever owning a home in their own city are getting bleaker by the day. It is time we really look at what is important to the students, and my vote is there are many things more critical to a students success than learning how to frost a cake. I am sure the schools will gladly accept additional monies from those willing to pay, even if the levy is not approved by the majority. If you truly support the schools, then get out your checkbook and do the "right thing." Before anyone writes back, stating I am not for the kids, I will tell you I have given more time to the schools system and the youth in this community than 99% of all residents. This was all volunteer. I was also one of the largest donors to the new stadium, as the funds were being raised privately, the way it should have been built. Using the terms "emergency" and "10 years" on the same proposal for a levy is an oxymoron. No emergency lasts 10 years. These cuts should have been made years ago.
A Lifetime Resident of Avon Lake March 2, 2013 at 05:38 pm
Final thought and a note to the Avon Lake Patch....anytime you you a quote in a headline, in this case "Two 'Amazing and Passionate' Teachers Lose Jobs as Family Consumer Program Cut", it is standard practice to attribute the quote to who said it in the article.
When there is no mention of where it originated, one becomes suspicion it may have simply been your opinion. Oh well, not I feel better knowing only 2 teachers will be eliminated, instead of the original 20 we were told. Sounds like the sequestration which began today...at first it was going to be the end of life as we know it, only to learn it was a false alarm. Were there ever going to be 20 teaching jobs eliminated? My guess is NO!
Kristen LePrevost March 2, 2013 at 05:44 pm
Myron, you say it's time to look at what's really important for kids but who are we as taxpayers to determine that? We aren't childhood education experts so we are in no place to decide that sports or Home Ec is unneeded. Sometimes it's not a reading, math or science class that is life changing for a child. Asking for accountability for the school board and spending..sure..but it bothers me seeing people say get rid of this or that without understanding the impact.
Just to clarify...these classes were much more then just frosting cakes..these are critical life skills classes that some of these children don't receive at home. We are a public school district so not every child comes from a great home where they receive all of the life lessons they deserve so sometimes the school system is their only chance at this so for you that claim these classes are redundant to good parenting please know we have children in need in this city. Like it or not schools are the anchors of communities...good schools bring people to the city which increase property value...people look to move west will compare us to say a Westlake...and if the only difference is they have a blue ribbon school and aren't making cuts guess where they will choose to live? Having a fantastic school system is a huge selling point for a city.
Kristen LePrevost March 2, 2013 at 05:46 pm
If you'll note they state these are the first cuts...it doesn't state the only cuts. And they've already laid people off in the past. Why assume they are lying about it?
Kristen LePrevost March 2, 2013 at 05:47 pm
Sorry Myron..I meant to direct this to A Liftime Resident :-)
Myron Thomas March 2, 2013 at 07:05 pm
The title of the article is accomplishing exactly what the writer intended. Chances of more articles like this til the vote. 100%
Chances of an article here highlighting how a senior or even a single parent may have to maybe cut back on meds or groceries because of their property taxes may go up again because of poor school administration planning. Zero percent....
Yes on #32! March 2, 2013 at 07:13 pm
My apologies to Myron if I am mixing you up with someone else. Just one more thing... there was no poor or lack of planning done by the administration or BOE in Avon Lake. I can assure you of that. If you've read the literature that's been sent home (and will continue to be sent home by Mr. Scott) or checked out the levy website, the major decrease in state funding (to say the least) can be explained. This loss of millions and millions each and every year couldn't have been predicted by anyone unfortunately, and every school district is in the same boat. You can bank on that one.
Victor Mooney March 2, 2013 at 09:10 pm
While you folks are fighting over the crumbs----please take a look at this---
> http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/02/how-progressive-education-and-bad-philosophy-corrupted-the-people-undermined-the-constitution-of-the-united-states/#.UTFX_QT50FM.email
Myron Thomas March 3, 2013 at 01:13 am
Kristen,
Seeing as we are not childhood education experts, as you have said. If the general public cannot say or have an idea what is cut, then the general public cannot have an idea of what is a good program. Simply put your comments on the need for the program cannot be valid. You can't have it one way to fit your argument and the other to dispute another's. State funding was on the decreas for years. if they had kept their eye on school operation alone just a few short years ago. They would not be in this position. The power plant's devalue was years ago as well, and the eventual closing was not a surprise. Cuts should have been made years ago instead of what appears to be "hoping for the best." Oh and that ONE other thing the board had to deal with.. Losses in revenue from property taxes due to decreases in property values in Avon Lake. Not to dispute anything but, an excellent school rating, a brand new stadium, and every program imaginable and the property values went DOWN. Haven't we heard so emphatically for practically every levy that good schools raise home values??? Hmmmm...
Leslie K March 3, 2013 at 03:34 am
Myron- the pro levy Facebook page has never, not ever, asked supporters to " get out in force on this site" as in on the patch. It has absolutely asked supporters to get the word out by asking supporters to spread the facts regarding the levy. The facts being documented losses, current cuts the district is making and how fellow supporters can help.
Victor Mooney March 3, 2013 at 04:00 am
Fact: STATE FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS HAS NOT BEEN CUT----this is a totally disengenous argument, and is NOT TRUE!--Please show facts!!!
While you are listening to the twisted facts--you folks who don`t have a completely closed mind, might take a look at this--- http://www.americanthinker.com/video/2013/02/how_teachers_unions_hurt_schools.html#.UTA65LczjD4.email
ALsupporter March 3, 2013 at 05:11 am
Really Victor?
http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2011/03/schools_local_governments_take.html
ALsupporter March 3, 2013 at 05:25 am
Or, hey, Mr. Mooney, how 'bout this:
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2011/04/08/school-budget-cuts-cut-in-half.html Or maybe this: http://m.springfieldnewssun.com/news/news/local/ohio-budget-keeps-taxes-cuts-school-and-local-go-1/nMsWG/
ALsupporter March 3, 2013 at 05:30 am
3 different sources from 3 different parts of the state.
There's more to be found, in case those sources aren't good enough for you: just type "ohio school funding cuts" into Google.
Myron Thomas March 3, 2013 at 02:08 pm
Jack,
No. You didn't mix me up with anyone. You called me by name and took direct quotes. Seeing as most, well actually everything you jumped down my throat about was wrong. How am I to trust any of the info you dispense? I can only assume you are part of the campaign because of the,"we have literature out and we are just getting the info out" lines. That's fine. I applaud you being active in the community. But like I said before your tactic of berating someone who simply has a different opinion is not right. And it's not because of mis-information. I have hard copies of literature that states that I have no more money to give..... I get them every month.
A Lifetime Resident of Avon Lake March 3, 2013 at 03:11 pm
Kristen, please tell me your comment from above..."you say it's time to look at what's really important for kids but who are we as taxpayers to determine that?" is a joke. What right do the parents and the one's paying the bill have to determine what is important to the kids? We have every right, which is why it goes to a vote!
Putting childhood education experts in charge of determining how much and where to spend OUR money is like asking the fox to guard the hen house. How about putting an economist, or a business owner who has to live within financial constraints in charge for a change. Leaving up top educators may have produced a great product in Avon Lake, but who couldn't be successful given the nearly unlimited funding they have enjoyed. Let's just all roll over and continue to give them everything they need. Sorry I even questioned their fiscal character. By the way, one the reason people move to Avon Lake, versus Westlake and Bay Village is the value of the education versus the property taxes! Once the taxes reach the level of these other communities, Avon Lake has lost any advantage and our property values will go down, as Avon Lake looks less appealing. Why not look at Avon instead? A growing community which also has a great school system, with much lower taxes. It is about the value for your tax dollars, and we have reached that break-even point. Another levy will put us over the top!
Myron Thomas March 3, 2013 at 03:30 pm
Leslie,
On February 11th Kristen ans Cheryl commented on the levy Facebook page that the people who post a different opinion than the levy comittee are mis-informed. Oh and that we do not care that we are mis-informed. And apparently those without the same opinion are not bright enough to get the proper information to make an "educated" decision. Well some of us have..... Yes. The board lost a lot of cash. Does it suck? Yep. Do they need to cut more? Yep. The board makes projections on budgets for the coming five years. Well, so have I. Gas now sits at just under 4 bucks. Will probably be around 5 bucks in a year or less.I have to budget for that. Taxes ON EVERYTHING, more than you know, to cover national programs will be hitting in the next year. I have to budget for that. Other utilities will be increasing in the next year or so because of regulations. Budget for that. I cannot sell my house, like somemhave suggested I do, because of the reduction in property value in this town. Even with a wonderful school system. The comittee keeps saying property value goes up with good schools. What happened here? I have done homework. And unlike the schools. I will stay within budget.
Kristen LePrevost March 3, 2013 at 03:47 pm
Wow...I'm sorry you took it that way but what I meant was that people were confused by how some projects were funded so I thought the levy supporters could educate others by telling how some of he most controversial projects were actually funded..ie-the bus garage. I don't believe I attacked anyone's intelligence and I have no problem if others have a different opinion then mine. People having passionate opinions on both sides is quite ok...I've maintained an adult and mature approach to this debate.
Yes on #32! March 3, 2013 at 04:20 pm
Actually, Myron, I did mix you up with a Myron from the Strongville Patch so get over yourself. You are really stuck on this as well as the whole issue 10. Vote no if you want, and get on with your life. I will vote yes for my children and other's children, and I will get on with my life too! For what it's worth though, you are very misinformed about how our district has lost funding...
Myron Thomas March 3, 2013 at 05:24 pm
Levy committee members. Why do you say our property value will go down if we do not vote for this?
Value has been down for years, thus the revenue shortfall for the board..... Your literature states this. You keep telling us good schools help retain property value. Why is it just not true?
AvonLaker1234 March 3, 2013 at 07:40 pm
Here's your a answer - please move.
Victor Mooney March 4, 2013 at 02:39 am
Saying you are a "AL" supporter doesn`t mean anything---I haven`t said I agree or disagree with any argument---I have only asked that you inform yourself.
You can find support for any argument, I am asking that you find out for yourself--- State funding for schools has not been cut---Federal dollars are no longer available, that is not the state, are they having to cut back, sure, will there be more cuts, you bet, will they come begging for more levies, I guarantee it. The whole system, Unions, Teachers, Administrators, is based on extracting more money from the citizenry , but the citizens are broke. It`s like an old Chow, we used to have---everyyear she would have 13-14 puppies, there wasn`t enough teats, nor milk for all. They all squealed, and fought, but always 7 or 8 ended up dead. There are not enough teats nor enough milk-------------------------You don`t really want to know how my father solved the problem.
MZ March 5, 2013 at 01:37 pm
Victor, great article. I find that I spend a significant amount of time de-programming my kids from their private school brainwashing. I can't imagine how bad it would be if they were in a public school.
MZ March 5, 2013 at 01:42 pm
Myron, if we just pass this levy, then the kids will be smart, home prices will skyrocket and we will all get to fly on a magical unicorn,
If we vote against it, the children will suffer, none will go to college, home prices will fall and we will become North Ridgeville. Is that what you want? Trust the teachers. They are all knowing. Trust the school board, they are way smarter than we peons could ever hope to be. Just look at how the entrance exam numbers of any school of education rank versus the other schools on campus.
Sharon Kalish Anghilante March 5, 2013 at 05:04 pm
Shari,
You are right on, this is stupid! When will we honor the quiet, steady, hardest working members of the school. The breakdown of the family, the concern over poor food choices, the devastating effects of poor money management, poor housekeeping...Gosh we ought to teach this in school. Aaha, we do! or we did! Family and Consumer Science, internationally known as Home Econimics does it. It does not get done at the JVS for the general population. It is needed for the college graduate as much as the rest of the student body. It is time we push back. These teachers are not the most popular by accident, it is because they are teaching amazing, valuable lessons! Shame on Avon Lake! Sharon Kalish Anghilante
Steve83 March 6, 2013 at 06:39 pm
Your articles are a little old from 2011. How about this one from Avon Lake patch from this February
http://avon-oh.patch.com/articles/funding-would-double-for-avon-avon-lake-schools-under-governors-budget-proposal
Steve83 March 6, 2013 at 06:42 pm
Still have not seen an explanation for this one (I posted this last November at levy time)
"The City of Avon Schools are rated Excellent with Distinction vs. Avon Lake as Excellent but City of Avon Schools spend only $7,181 per student for 2011 vs. Avon Lake City Schools $10,904 (reference Ohio Department of Education Finance group). That is a big difference without a good explanation as to why. "
Yes on #32! March 6, 2013 at 08:22 pm
One reason it is much cheaper to educate children in Avon is because they don't have neighborhood schools like we do in Avon Lake. In addition, Avon has hired teachers at base pay for many years. Just two examples off the top of my head, but the first one is a biggie. Saves them about a million every year or two.
Roy Rodgers March 12, 2013 at 05:22 pm
Are you a republican?
Yes on #32! March 19, 2013 at 12:29 am
A topic that seems to get brought up frequently revolves around the cost per student for Avon and Avon Lake. Here are some facts regarding this:
*Avon Lake has a higher cost per student than Avon Approximately $10,800 to $7,100 *One of the factors in Avon having a low cost per student is their rapid growth. *75% of the Avon Teaching Staff have less than 10 years of experience *75% of the Avon Lake Teaching Staff have more than 10 years of experience *Avon Lake has reduced its teaching staff by 10% in the last 3 years *Avon Lake has 24 teachers retiring in the next 2 years Avon Lake’s cost per student is dropping and will continue to drop with a smaller staff and a younger staff

Newsletter & Alerts

Get the best stories each day and important breaking news

Subscribe

Not from Avon-Avon Lake Patch? Find your Local Patch »

Note Article
Just a short thought to get the word out quickly about anything in your neighborhood.
Share something with your neighbors. Write a new post... What's up? Make an announcement, speak your mind, or sell something