Solution to Deer Problem: Where is It? Letter To The Editor

A year has passed, is there a solution in sight?

Dear Avon Lake City Council:

It has been one year since discussion was presented regarding too many deer and the need to cull them. Since then there's been consideration to ask residents not to feed them, give deer birth control to these dumb destructive animals, but not, no, nothing regarding killing these dangerous, dumb animals. Will you be responsible for doing nothing?

Deer are in pockets by Giant Eagle on Walker Road, near the Ohio Assembly Plant, down Miller Road, and on Walker and Jaycox. Motorists have swerved and crossed the medium, been hit by these animals and yet council has not acted to eliminate this problem. Laughingly, if these deer were bear, vicious dogs, or mosquitoes something might be done sooner than later, but deer? What is being done right now?

Last week, when I was driving down Walker, five deer walked across the street and missed my car. Unlike what I heard on the city's cable channel that deer have become so smart that they know when to cross the street, the deer that I encountered were animals that almost got me killed. These animals have gone beyond being a nuisance; they are not cute, but they are dangerous.

What is our city going to do as it is mating season for these animals that destroy vegetation, spread ticks and destroy or kill motorist?

Do not be afraid of the residents who think deer can talk, know when to cross streets or plaster orange signs reading DO NOT HUNT. Be afraid that someone is going to get killed by these stupid animals.

Kathleen Wilhelm

Avon Lake

Jen G November 10, 2012 at 12:45 PM
Maybe nothing has been done because people are trying to find a safe way to solve this problem. You can't just open up the city to hunters. This city is much too densely populated to allow hunting. The deer are far from dangerous animals. When's the last time you heard of a deer attacking someone (unlike the bears and viscous dogs you mentioned)?? All they are trying to do is eat! You know where the "pockets" of deer are so be careful! I agree that we need to do something to keep motorists safe, but having people, trained or not, walking around with bows and arrows or guns, is not the solution! I'm not sure when or how people have become so heartless towards animals. If you don't like living where there's wildlife, then move! Maybe you should try to help find a safe solution rather than judge and blame! Are YOU going to be responsible for a child that accidentally gets hit by a hunter (and don't tell me it can't happen because it can and has)?? Be part of the solution, not the problem!!
Tamie Myers November 10, 2012 at 02:00 PM
I'm a deer hunter. I hunt with a bow and a shotgun during the appropriate seasons. I'm careful to see what's beyond my target before I loose that arrow or touch the trigger, and have never shot anything other than my intended target, the deer. I agree that Avon Lake is far too populated to allow gun hunting for deer. A slug fired from a shotgun can travel over 100 yards. However, I believe bow hunters could safely control the deer population in this town. Bow hunters typically sight-in for shots of 20-30 yards. Longer bow shots would result in loss of velocity of the projectile, reducing the chances for a clean kill. This short shooting distance also raises the chances that bow hunters will: (1) clearly see their sight picture; (2) NOT mistake that sight picture for anything other than a deer; and (3) make a good killing shot on the deer. My bow is sighted in for twenty yards. And I have NEVER mistaken a child for a deer. FWIW, I'm a woman deer hunter. I state that because I want to counter any readers' perceptions that a (traditionally) male hunter is responding to a non-hunting woman's post. Finally, I'm not, as you say, "heartless toward animals." I'm a dog owner and a volunteer member of a pug rescue group. How can I justify this as a hunter? Well, dogs are domestic creatures; deer are wildlife. I don't keep deer as pets. I keep deer as food, in my freezer, until it's ready for my plate, right next to the mashed potatoes and gravy. ;-)
MZ November 10, 2012 at 03:06 PM
Tamie, nice post but unfortunately non-hunters won't get it. PETA sympathizers will refuse to understand that population management is vital to not only the health of the deer, but to the safety of the community. Thinning of the herd via controlled bow hunting would be a safe and practical way to avoid outbreaks of Lyme disease, relapsing fever, typhus, etc... from ticks.
Rich November 10, 2012 at 04:00 PM
Why is it every hunter in Ohio drones on with the same old song which is a bunch of hooey anyway ? Yeah, typhus ,. There's a real threat. Lyme disease is spread by rodents not deer. Your pet hunting dog is just as likely to be carrying them. Maybe we should have open season on dogs. Fortunatly, Avon will decide a solution based on reality and not the mindless drivel that shows up in these posts.
Jen G November 10, 2012 at 05:34 PM
I'm not going to argue this with a hunter. It takes a certain type of person to shoot and kill a defenseless animal. We could argue back and forth all day about the positives and negatives of hunting....neither of us would change our minds in the end. Bottom line for me is that hunting should never be allowed within city limits. It's too dangerous and unnecessary.
MZ November 10, 2012 at 08:01 PM
Yeah deer ticks absolutely don't carry Lyme disease, not at all. Most responsible dog owners treat their dogs to make sure they don't get ticks. Maybe we could catch all the deer and treat them. Mindless drivel? It's more than ok to have disparagent opinions, by why hurl invectives? Would an posing view be better communicated of it said; those that thing bow hunting would be dangerous are spewing a bunch of hooey? Fortunately, Avon will decide a solution based on reality and not the mindless drivel that shows up in Rich's posts.
Michelle Braun November 10, 2012 at 09:08 PM
I agree with Jen G. Hunting within city limits is a 'no go' for me. I don't care how good you are at using your bow. Interestingly enough, I actually slow down when I see them, point them out to my children, and marvel at how beautiful they are and how wonderful it is to live in a place where we get to see them. After years of living in condensed metro areas, I think Avon Lake is a wonderful place and I consider the deer part of that landscape.
Rich November 10, 2012 at 09:16 PM
Jen, you are absolutely correct. I have followed this issue in numerous suburbs and it invariably breaks down three ways. Those who don't want to see wildlife harmed, the hunters who want to kill deer for sport and the rest who are totally confused. Incidentally, the term "deer tick " isn't even used by biologists any more . They're called black legged ticks because they are spread by other animals besides deer including your favorite fido. Funny though how hunters get "offended" when you call them out but they have no problem slaughtering animals including fawns. Apparently ,thats not offensive to anyone but those crazy PETA people.
S. Kurz November 10, 2012 at 11:37 PM
I have lived in the area all my life. This used to be farms, woods and fields. This was all deer habitat. Builders came in buying up the farms and land. They built housing developments lessening green space and taking deer habitation away. Naturally deer don't understand so they graze where they always have. There is no easy solution to this problem. Someone will not agree with whatever step is taken. I understand that culling the deer makes it less crowded and healthier for the deer. You can't hunt in residential areas. A solution that would benefit deer and residents would be to do a 5 year birth control on all does and tag. I know it would take man hours and the cost of birth control. Those people that would like to see less deer cough up some of the expense of doing the birth control. Volunteer to help with paper and computer work. Put your time and money where your mouth is.
Just Me November 11, 2012 at 12:49 AM
While checking 500 deer for chronic wasting disease in the winter, health authorities found 100 deer had ticks on them with 1,830 of them black-legged ticks. “In the past we only found the winter tick. That’s an alarming number of black-legged ticks,” which means that Ohio now has an established population of them, Daniels said. That number is predicted to rise in a couple of years because of warmer-than-normal temperatures in the winter. Ticks are active on warm days, even in the winter. With a two-year reproductive cycle, the spring of 2014 could have a large tick population, Daniels said.
MZ November 11, 2012 at 01:25 AM
Just Me, don't waste your time here. Rich has it all figured out already for all of us.
MZ November 11, 2012 at 01:31 AM
Rich, you give yourself way too much credit. One would have to actually care what you think to be offended. I am sure you are a full on vegan and would never use anything that is derived from animals, otherwise your last comment is even more amusing ( note I didn't say offensive). Because if you aren't a vegan, or own anything leather/etc... one might assume you have no problem with someone else slaughtering animals for you. If you are a vegan then I commend you on your convictions. I could never do it, bacon tastes so good!
Noone November 11, 2012 at 04:21 AM
I feel sorry for our Deer , they can be a nuisance but they are not dangerous ,stupid well maybe because they don't give hunters any trouble to kill them. They just stand there, waiting for their senseless killing. It's a sport for hunters not a necessity to feed their family. Sick ! You want to hunt go hunt something that will hunt you back. As for the Deer issue , you had to know we had wildlife here if you don't like living where there's wildlife, move! @S. Kurz , You have the solution that makes sense . 5 year birth control on all does and tag and No kill ! I agree ! I'd volunteer to help a good cause as this one and I'm sure others that have lived here 30+ years that have enjoyed our wildlife would as well.
C Clay November 11, 2012 at 12:39 PM
What happens if you do nothing? Drive slower and more attentive? Treat your dog with Frontline? Protect your garden from pests? I mean I don't know- I just moved here- the most aggravating things for me are to clean up their poop and having my freshly bathed dog rub himself in their urine (or whatever it is) in the yard. Seems to me like if I drove as inattentive as I used to- I'd have already hit several. My driving skills have actually improved since I've lived here LOL.
joe mama November 14, 2012 at 02:50 PM
I think if the city will not act on this they need to share in the expense of repair bill to cars from deer collisions.
Kristen LePrevost November 19, 2012 at 06:38 PM
I have to disagree...at least once a week I have to slam on my breaks to avoid hitting one while they cross the street and I have my kids in the car....also..we've had big rutting bucks in our backyard that do not run away from humans and I worry could charge the kids...so it needs to be addressed even though I like the deer too..many of them also do not look very healthy so allowing their overpopulation isn't humane to them either...
Kimber Malloy November 19, 2012 at 08:17 PM
agree with Kristen 100%, its almost ironic (sad actually) that North Ridgeville IS doing it and mightly Avon Lake (are we really anymore?...NO) just had ANOTHER 3 hour meeting and the result? MORE meetings. One year and counting.......
Patch reader November 24, 2012 at 09:43 PM
I wonder how much it cost to repair the patrol car that hit a deer on Jaycox?


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